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074 | 「一战再战」：告别宏大叙事，拥抱日常英雄 Beyond Grand Narratives, Toward Everyday Heroes
【聊了什么The What】本期节目，我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森（Paul Thomas Anderson）很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去，真香着出来”的年度惊喜，也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发，探讨暴力革命的伦理困境：当“妇人之仁”成为罪行，对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价？Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄，还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性？Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面，是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义？ For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés. Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid? 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象 10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”？ 22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨：电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”？ 31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄？ 54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗？ 58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义 67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺 78:47 结局：这也能大团圆 00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions 10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing? 22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”? 31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero? 54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma? 58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday 67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism 78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending? 【拓展链接 The Links】 Liberalism in Dark Times: The Liberal Ethos in the Twentieth Century The Rebel: An Essay on Man in Revolt Vineland 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022
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073 | KATSEYE：你有这样高速运转的K-Pop造星机器进入美国 All Eyes on KATSEYE and K-Pop's Global Expansion
【聊了什么The What】本期节目，小蓝和小杨将自己“逼到墙角”，聊一聊让我们甘心情愿入坑的国际K-Pop女团KATSEYE。这个由六个截然不同的文化背景、肤色成员组成的团体出道曲成绩优异，而且靠hyperpop单曲“Gnarly”迅速出圈，已经成为美国炙手可热的新人偶像。她们身上那种“全校最漂亮的mean girls跟你天下第一好”的鲜活与“有病又有梗”的魅力与以往的女团相比更松弛、自由。但同时，KATSEYE也代表着K-pop全球扩张战略“质变”的一个成功样本——HYBE和Geffin Records强强联手不仅是韩美资本的一场盛大联姻，更是一个将K-pop工业化造星体系移植到美国本土的庞大实验。我们跟随着出道纪录片《Popstar Academy》，见证这场巨大的“楚门秀”如何将活生生、充满棱角的女孩们锻造成精美的商品。在这套精密运作的资本逻辑下，“人”与“商品”的边界变得模糊，友谊、梦想与自我认同被撕裂，作为娱乐献祭给全球观众。从成员选拔中无法掩盖的地缘政治与种族“拼色游戏”，到闵熙珍与HYBE的冲突所揭示的平台垄断与创作者困境，我们探讨K-pop这套“反人性”却极致高效的体系在全球复制时，究竟是在输出文化，还是在输出一套更精密的规训与控制？ In this episode, Xiao Lan and Xiao Yang dive into KATSEYE, the international K-pop girl group that's completely hooked us. This six-member group debuted to chart success and broke into the mainstream with hyperpop single "Gnarly." They radiate a chaotic, meme-able charm—"the prettiest mean girls who are also ride-or-die for you"—that feels more relaxed and subversive than previous girl groups. But KATSEYE also represents K-pop's global expansion "qualitative shift." The HYBE and Geffen Records collaboration transplants K-pop's industrialized star-making system onto American soil. Their Netflix documentary Popstar Academy was a "Truman Show" forging strong personalities into polished products, where the line between "person" and "commodity" blurs. From market-driven diversity in member selection to Min Hee-jin's conflict with HYBE exposing creator struggles, we ask: is K-pop exporting culture—or a sophisticated apparatus of exploitation and control? 【时间轴 The When】 02:32 - 04:55 - KATSEYE 是个什么样的女团？ 04:55 - 10:49 - Gnarly歌曲制作中加入不雅声音引发的巨大争议，行业应该如何对待未成年偶像 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE成员台上和台下的反差魅力，“发疯”的Gen-Z女团来整顿韩娱了 13:30 - 18:47 - 纪录片《Popstar Academy》的“楚门秀”式选秀、K-pop严苛的训练体系如何与美国文化碰撞 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon的角色弧光与争议：不努力是偶像最大的原罪吗？ 28:31 - 45:19 - 选秀的残酷本质、地缘政治与种族配额：国籍、市场等因素如何决定谁能出道 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE x Geffen资本联姻背后的商业模式、全球扩张野心 53:37 - 59:19 - NEWJEANS 的官司里闵熙珍与HYBE的争议是创新、复制与控制权的根本矛盾 59:19 - 69:54 - K-pop的造星方法论走向世界的过程中会去芜存菁吗？ 02:32 - 04:55 - Who is KATSEYE? The Korean-American entertainment powerhouse deal behind the group 04:55 - 10:49 - The "Gnarly" controversy: Why explicit sounds in the track sparked massive backlash 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE's duality: How this "unhinged" Gen-Z girl group is disrupting K-pop norms 13:30 - 18:47 - Popstar Academy's reality TV manipulation and K-pop's brutal training system meets American culture 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon's journey and the backlash: Is "not trying hard enough" the ultimate idol crime? 28:31 - 45:19 - Beyond talent: How geopolitics, racial quotas, and market appeal really determine who debuts 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE × Geffen: Unpacking the business strategy and global ambitions 53:37 - 59:19 - The NewJeans conflict: Innovation vs. imitation and the battle for creative control 59:19 - 69:54 - Can K-pop's factory system evolve as it goes global—or will it just export the same problems? 【拓展链接 The Links】 The fued between Min Hee-Jin (NJZ) and HYBE, a timeline "Gnarly" MV KATSEYE 的综艺（Warning: 很吵） ”Machine Girl“ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022
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072 | 秋季氛围检查：失去全世界，收获爱尔兰 Fall Vibe Check: Losing the World, Gaining Ireland
感谢金主妈妈妙界按摩仪！点击专属购买链接： https://mo.m.tmall.com/page/36553111?shop_id=227373533&item_id=720388007073 【聊了什么The What】新的毫无养分的氛围检查来了——几个女的们观察世界的宏观状态之后，决定一起和大家进入秋冬季节，并且开启“安心做废物”的模式。另外，最近互联网充斥着AI Generated Slop（AI生成的垃圾内容），鉴于这个状况不容忽视，我们人工生成了一些纯天然的垃圾内容。希望你听完依旧一点东西都没有学到！ Here comes another vibe check with zero nutritional value—after observing the world’s current macro state, a few women decided to ease into the autumn-winter season by collectively embracing the mindset of “being at peace with being a little useless.” Also, the internet is now overflowing with AI Generated Slop. In response, we couldn’t just sit back and do nothing. So, we used our actual brains to produce some organic human generated slop. Here’s to another joyful useless hour of pure vibes! 【时间轴 The When】 03:55 - 小蓝的上头：爱尔兰是好地方，一共有50个人，大家都相互认识对方 19:52 - 一芳的下头：我们如何理解Taylor Swift新专辑中的矛盾信息？霉霉你还好吗 41:16 - 小杨的上头：权志龙居然有新粉，新粉居然是我，以及爱豆和粉丝之间的关系或许应当是平等的？ 48:53 - 妙界按摩仪救救我们的颈椎，请大家也用上，谢谢大家 52:03 - 花酱的上头：《暮光之城》文艺复兴，荣光归来，吸血鬼emo爱情故事如何在我们的前额叶长好以后重新归来 03:55 - Xiaolan’s high: Ireland is a great place, only 50 people live there and they all know each other 19:52 - Yifang’s low: How do we make sense of the contradictions in Taylor Swift’s new album? Taylor, are you okay? 41:16 - Xiaoyang’s high: G-Dragon, and why idols and fans should be equals 48:53 - A massager that saved our stiff necks and you should try it too 52:03 - Hana high: The Twilight Renaissance—the vampires are back; how emo vampire love stories hit differently once your prefrontal cortex is fully developed 【拓展链接 The Links】这篇纽约客文章分析了Gossip Girl这部小说的精妙的创作 No Good Art Comes From Greed BigBang的花路 🎉【听众专属福利】感谢金主妈妈妙界按摩仪拯救我们疲惫生活的疲惫颈椎！ ✔ 8D仿人手揉捏，精准放松肌肉 ✔ 四种按摩模式，其中大师模式，媲美专业按摩 ✔ 升级艾灸碳模式，热敷艾灸缓解疲惫 ✔ 小巧便携，无限设计，全身可用 ✔一键操作，添加语音播报功能，自用送礼都合适有需要的听友们快使用以下三种方式，获得专属购买福利吧： 1、点击进入专属购买链接：https://equity.taobao.com/tm?agentId=045c13081b0c4030&bc_fl_src=tmall_market_llb_1_2784288&llbPlatform=_pube&llbOsd=1 2、复制淘口令：78￥kLPbf1ZsHk8￥ / CZ225 3、在淘宝搜索：“妙界〞找到【妙界旗舰店】向客服报暗号“疲惫娇娃“即可获得专属链接。【买咖啡 Please Support Us】如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022
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071 | Vibe Shift 三部曲：保守女性气质的回潮 The Return of Conservative Femininity
【聊了什么The What】在“女权疲劳”与“woke倦怠”之后，美国流行文化正在经历一场“女性气质”的回潮（Vibe Shift）：保守女性气质重新流行起来。本期节目我们深入聊了姐妹会文化、MAGA美妆、还有TikTok上那些看似“非政治”的倡导健康生活的视频，是如何一步步把女性重新绑回“温柔、克制、顺从”的模子里，在无形中复活了反女性主义的观念。从阿拉巴马大学的 Bama Rush 现象到 Sydney Sweeney 的“cool girl”形象，这场Vibe Shift不仅是审美的变化，更是一种政治与文化的再编码，当流行文化把政治意识形态与个人价值混为一谈，什么样的女性故事被放大，又有哪些被抹去？ As part two of our Vibe Shift Trilogy, this episode dives into the return of conservative femininity in American pop culture today. We dive into pop culture moments such as Bama Rush, MAGA beauty trends on TikTok, the rise of wellness influencers and how their “apolitical” content is quietly reviving anti-feminist ideals of the olden days. The vibe shift isn’t just about aesthetics, but a recoding of culture and politics. In this shift, we question what kinds of stories of womanhood get amplified — and which are erased? 【时间轴 The When】 1:30: Sydney Sweeney 牛仔裤广告的争议，保守派审美的回归 8:00 “男人圈” vs “女人圈” 文化是如何通过健身、美容等“非政治”话题，随后逐渐渗入反女性主义和厌女的意识形态。 11:20 女人圈的健康类头部播客如何散播保守女性主义，“健康 = 美丽 = 道德” 14:20 自由派女性叙事倦怠，保守叙事趁虚而入 23:48 从Bama Rush大学姐妹会文化来看美国南方保守主义的女性理想 38:44 保守叙事下新一代女性的人生理想是如何变成寻找值得依靠的伴侣 1:30 Sydney Sweeney and her jeans/genes and the return of the conservative femininity 8:00 – “manosphere” vs “womanosphere” cultures use seemingly non-political topics like fitness and beauty to gradually introduce anti-feminist and misogynistic ideologies 11:20 – top women’s health podcasts in the “womanosphere” spread conservative femininity, promoting the idea that “Health = Beauty = Morality” 14:20 – Fatigue with liberal female narratives opens the door for conservative messaging 23:48 – Examining ideals of Southern conservative femininity through Bama Rush and Greek life 38:44 – The reinvention of the feminist ideal: securing a reliable partner and what that means for society 【拓展链接 The Links】社会学家Anne Helen Petersen关于Bama Rush的文章，链接【疲惫红书 CyberRed】除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022
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070 | Vibe Shift 三部曲：被社交媒体撕裂的爱丁顿 Eddington Under Siege
【聊了什么The What】这期节目我们聊了Ari Aster的最新电影《爱丁顿》(Eddington)——一部让人看完想骂街，但又忍不住要深度分析的作品。这位以《仲夏夜惊魂》和《遗传厄运》闻名的导演，这次把镜头对准了2020年5月疫情初期的美国小镇，用西部片的外壳包装了一个关于社交媒体如何撕裂社群的恐怖故事。Joaquin Phoenix饰演的老派警长Joe Cross和Pedro Pascal饰演的自由派市长在这个巴掌大的新墨西哥小镇展开政治对决，而真正的赢家却是那个从头到尾都面目模糊的科技巨头——他们要在这里建数据中心。我们从这部极具争议性的电影聊开去，探讨了BLM运动的社交媒体化、取消文化的游戏规则、以及阴谋论如何在小镇邻里间传播。最终发现，当所有人都在网上吵成一团的时候，真正的危机——AI和大科技公司——已经悄悄占领了现实世界。 This episode we dove into Ari Aster's latest film "Eddington"—a movie that'll make you want to throw things at the screen, but also can't stop you from obsessively analyzing every frame. The director behind "Midsommar" and "Hereditary" sets his sights on a fictional small American town during the early pandemic chaos of May 2020, wrapping a horror story about social media tearing communities apart in Western film genre. Joaquin Phoenix's old-school sheriff Joe Cross goes head-to-head with Pedro Pascal's liberal mayor in this tiny New Mexico town, while the real winner turns out to be the faceless tech giant that's been planning to build a data center there all along. We used this deeply polarizing film to unpack everything from how BLM got weaponized on social media, to the toxic rules of cancel culture, to how conspiracy theories spread like wildfire through small-town neighbor networks. The ending is both alarming and defeatist: while everyone was busy fighting online, the real crisis—AI and Big Tech—had already quietly taken over. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 - Vibe Shift：从Covid到现在的时代精神转向 02:32 - Ari Aster这一次拍了个什么片？ 06:45 - 小镇警长和自由派精英的对决导演拉偏架了吗？ 15:45 - BLM运动的社交媒体化和"good trouble"的商品化 22:22 - 社交媒体游戏规则如何让所有人"吃相难看" 34:24 - 创伤如何成为舆论场的货币 38:55 - 小蓝的"假新闻田野调查" 45:19 - 电影结局的虚无主义倾向 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp"彩蛋 52:18 - AI数据中心对美国小镇的真实影响 58:02 - 艺术家有权创作"残忍"艺术吗？ 1:10:00 - 爱丁顿里的真实社会议题 00:00 - Vibe Shift: Zeitgeist transformation from pandemic to now 02:32 - Film plot overview: Political showdown in a New Mexico town 06:45 - Did Ari Aster put his thumb on the scale in the fight between the sheriff and the mayor 15:45 - The social media-ization of BLM and commodification of "good trouble" 22:22 - How social media rules make everyone look bad 34:24 - How trauma becomes currency in the discourse 38:55 - Xiao Lan's "fake news field research" 45:19 - The film's nihilistic ending 48:19 - "SolidGoldMagikarp" Easter egg 52:18 - Real impact of AI data centers on American small towns 58:02 - Do artists have the right to create "cruel" art? 1:10:00 - Real social issues plaiguing today's America in "Eddington" 【拓展链接 The Links】 Film Colossus关于"Solid Gold Magikarp"异常标记的分析文章纽约时报关于数据中心对社区用水影响的报道 Naomi Klein《Doppelganger》 Matthew Yglesias"The Great Awokening" 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买杯咖啡 Please Support Us】如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡：海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022
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