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Behind The Wall

Podcast Behind The Wall
Daniel Wall
We shine a light on the people and stories behind music, movies, and media. It's our goal to chat with the people who create our favorite art and learn their st...

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  • How Pokémon Accidentally Made the Biggest Theme Song Ever (Jason Paige interview)
    In this episode of Behind The Wall, I sat down with Jason Paige, the legendary singer behind the original Pokémon theme song—one of the most recognizable and beloved theme songs in history. But what most people don’t know is that Jason’s story isn’t just about talent—it’s about being in the right place at the right time and seizing the moment that would change everything. Jason has worked with Michael Jackson, Aerosmith, and sung some of the most famous jingles ever, but before that, he was hustling to get his voice heard—literally. He made fake jingle tapes and delivered them to ad agencies, hoping to land work as a singer. He had no idea that years later, he’d be handed a last-minute studio gig to sing the theme for a brand-new cartoon called “Pokémon”. And that gig? It made history. That one recording session became the soundtrack of a generation. What started as another job became a song that billions of people around the world can sing from memory.In this conversation, we dive into: 🎤 The full, never-before-heard story of how the Pokémon theme song was made 🎤 How Jason randomly got the call to sing it—and how it was almost very different 🎤 The moment he realized the song had become a global phenomenon 🎤 His experience working with Michael Jackson & Aerosmith 🎤 How his voice has secretly shaped pop culture for decades Jason Paige is living proof that sometimes, the biggest moments in life come when you least expect them. He didn’t set out to be the singing voice of Pokémon—but through a mix of talent, hustle, and being ready for the right opportunity, he became exactly that. His story is a testament to the power of saying "yes," taking chances, and giving your all to every moment, no matter how small it seems at the time. Because sometimes, the things we do in a single day—one recording session, one audition, one leap of faith—can leave an impact that lasts a lifetime.Where You Can Find More of Jason Paige🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4C2BnfCRMI8bTf3LlBUljz?si=dMsR6fNGRaqvnWsfHtQ4KA 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonpaige/?hl=en📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JasonPaige📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jasonpaigeWhere You Can Find More of Daniel🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5VjSRHdISZZnT9WkZC4xBb?si=d33eed531ea84d85📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall?lang=en
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  • How bbno$ Became the King of Viral Music
    In this episode of Behind The Wall, I sit down with bbno$—the rapper, songwriter, and internet sensation who has redefined what it means to go viral in music. From making songs for fun in his Vancouver bedroom to racking up billions of streams, bbno$ has mastered the art of blending humor, personality, and insanely catchy music to build a fanbase that stretches across the world.But his journey wasn’t always this clear. After a back injury ended his dreams of becoming a professional swimmer, bbno$ turned to music as a creative outlet. Little did he know, his early experiments on SoundCloud would lead to some of the biggest viral hits of the decade. His song Lalala with Y2K exploded overnight, charting globally and becoming one of the most viral internet-era hits. But what people don’t know is that before Lalala, he was already making waves in China—going viral in a way that no one saw coming.In this conversation, we dive into:🎵 How bbno$ turned memes into music success🎵 The Lalala phenomenon—how it changed everything🎵 His legendary collaborations with other artists 🎵 The reality of staying independent and making it big🎵 The formula behind his addictive, unconventional songwritingAs a content creator, I’ve seen firsthand how bbno$'s music thrives in the internet space—his songs aren’t just hits; they’re moments that people connect with, remix, and turn into trends. He’s proof that in today’s music industry, authenticity, humor, and creativity are just as powerful as major label backing.If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to make viral music, this episode is a must-watch.Huge thank you to bbno$ for going Behind The Wall with us and sharing your journey! 🚀 Check out his new music out now.
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  • Jason Evigan: The Mind Behind 100 Billion Streams & 8 Billboard #1s
    In this episode of Behind The Wall, we dive into the incredible journey of Jason Evigan, a powerhouse songwriter and producer behind some of the biggest hits in modern music. From crafting global anthems for Maroon 5, Demi Lovato, Jason Derulo, Ellie Goulding, Nick Jonas, Benson Boone, RÜFÜS DU SOL, and even Madonna and David Guetta, Jason's fingerprints are all over the pop music landscape. His work has topped charts, broken records, and resonated with millions worldwide. But behind the success, Jason found himself at a crossroads—after years of chasing chart-toppers and commercial hits, he made a bold decision: to stop focusing on just making hits and instead create music with artists that connect with him on a deeper level. He traded the pressure of industry expectations for artistic fulfillment, choosing to collaborate with musicians who inspire him, rather than just aiming for commercial success. And here’s where it gets even crazier— For the first time ever, Jason takes us Behind The Wall for an exclusive, never-before-seen deep dive into his original demos, revealing the early versions of some of the biggest hits of our time! In this exclusive segment, Jason breaks down the stories behind: 🎵 "Girls Like You" (Maroon 5) – The original demo and how the song almost went to a completely different artist. 🎵 "Chains" (Nick Jonas) – The raw demo that helped shape Nick’s sound and the incredible story of how it came together. 🎵 "Hate Me" (Ellie Goulding) – The evolution from demo to the hit you know today. 🎵 "What Lovers Do" (Maroon 5) – Who almost snagged this smash hit before it landed with Maroon 5. These demos, featuring vocals from the original songwriters, are only available to our Behind The Wall community, making this an insane, one-of-a-kind experience you won’t find anywhere else. If you’ve ever wondered how your favorite songs come to life—from an idea in the studio to chart-topping success—this is your chance to see it firsthand. ONLY ON PATREON: patreon.com/user?u=32350478 Jason’s story is a powerful reminder that success isn’t just about hits; it’s about creating something meaningful, staying true to your vision, and finding joy in the process. Whether you're an aspiring songwriter, an artist, or just someone who loves the magic of music, this episode is a masterclass in creativity, resilience, and self-belief. Where You Can Find More of Jason Evigan: *Playlist of The Songs Jason Co-Wrote: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFJsmusdNvXOG?si=1d59d8970b394246 *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonevigan/?hl=en *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elephant_heart*Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall*Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2nwPBvsuf070C7KYSWoXbD?si=Co9XWKFhRSGgDXf2Vq8NRQ Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall: *YouTube: ‪https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall *TikTok: ‪https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall *Instagram: ‪https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en *Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall *Playlist of The Songwriters: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=12a20c414c50486f ✨ A heartfelt thank you to everyone who helped bring this episode to life. I’m beyond grateful to my incredible team, to everyone who has supported me throughout this journey, and of course, to Jason Evigan for sharing his story with such honesty and passion.
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  • Savan Kotecha: The Songwriting Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation
    This interview is dedicated to the beloved artist and One Direction's own, Liam Payne. I never had the honor of meeting Liam, but his presence in music meant so much to me and so many others around the world. His voice and impact will live on forever. In this interview, I had the privilege of chatting with legendary songwriter, Savan Kotecha. One of the key people who helped Liam, One Direction, and so many artists find their voice. This conversation was recorded before Liam's tragic passing; a loss that has deeply affected so many around the world. And I wish that Liam could see how many people and how many lives he changed because of his incredible because of his incredible voice, his incredible message, and his incredible music. Before we begin, Savan asked me to share this heartfelt message in honor of Liam and his family: "Hey everyone, Since this interview with Daniel was recorded, the world has changed with the tragic passing of Liam Payne. As you’ll hear in my conversation with Daniel, my time with Liam and One Direction was truly life-changing. Liam played a huge role in making my wildest dreams come true. He was a light, and I will forever be grateful that he was a part of my life. I know I speak for millions of fans when I say he will be missed beyond words. Lots of love, savan" Savan Kotecha: The Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation 🎶 In this episode of Behind The Wall, we sit down with the legendary Savan Kotecha, a songwriter and producer whose work has shaped the sound of modern pop music. With over 375 million records sold worldwide, hundreds of billions of streams, and a unique perspective on the creative process, Savan’s genius has defined global pop music like no other. As one of the most successful creatives in music, Savan’s journey is an inspiring story of breaking barriers and redefining representation in the global music industry. From humble beginnings in Texas, he overcame rejection, self-doubt, and the challenges of finding his voice in the competitive music world. Through persistence, passion, and an unrelenting work ethic, Savan went on to co-write some of the biggest songs of all time for artists like One Direction, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Ellie Goulding’, Usher, and so many more. Years later, Savan has become one of the most successful and sought-after songwriters in the world. Yet, as he shares in this conversation, success is about more than numbers—it’s about the lives you touch and the moments you create. In this heartfelt and inspiring discussion, Savan opens up about his creative process, his perspective on success, and the never-before-heard stories behind the biggest songs he’s helped create. Whether you’re a music fan or an aspiring creator, this episode is a masterclass in creativity, resilience, and the power of belief. Where You Can Find More of Savan Kotecha: Playlist of Songs Savan Co-Wrote: Spotify Instagram: @savan_kotecha TikTok: @savan_kotecha Facebook: kananisongs Spotify Artist Profile: Savan Kotecha Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall: YouTube: Daniel’s Wall TikTok: @danielswall Instagram: @danielwall Facebook: danielsecretwall Playlist of The Songwriters: Spotify Special Thanks to the people who helped me bring this episode to life Creative Director: Ryan Bell Editors: Danial Yahaya & Noah McGuire Thumbnail Designer: Asif My friends and family: You know who you are ❤️ I’m so grateful for everyone who have pushed and supported me on this journey. Thank you, Savan, for going Behind The Wall with us and sharing your incredible stories! You are truly one of the most prolific songwriters ever. The songs you’ve helped create have defined not just a generation but my own journey. Hearing the stories behind those songs was an absolute dream come true. Thank you for being so open and vulnerable in this conversation. I’m grateful for the opportunity to learn from you and look forward to many more incredible conversations in the future!
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  • How Amy Allen Became The Biggest Songwriter of The Year
    In this episode of Behind The Wall, we sit down with the incredibly talented Amy Allen, a songwriter whose work has defined the sound of modern pop music. She’s the creative force behind some of the biggest songs in recent years, co-writing hits for Halsey, Harry Styles, Selena Gomez, Sabrina Carpenter, Tate McRae, and many more. With a gift for crafting songs that are as emotionally resonant as they are unforgettable, Amy has become a true powerhouse in the industry. But Amy’s story goes far beyond her impressive list of chart-topping hits. In our conversation, she shares her journey from doubting her abilities as a songwriter to becoming one of the most sought-after names in music. From her beginnings in Maine to collaborating with global superstars, Amy opens up about her evolution as both a songwriter and an artist. Whether you’re a music lover or an aspiring creator, Amy’s story is a masterclass in resilience, self-belief, and finding your voice in a competitive world. Her journey proves that the stories behind the music can be just as compelling as the songs themselves.  Congrats on getting nominated for Songwriter of The Year Amy! We’re all rooting for you!  Where You Can Find More of Amy Allen: *Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4Ebm2DC4Spo173X85D1n5x?si=xtx-nWdDRbSFs_ti_d2HnQ  *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amyallen/?hl=en  *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amyallenmusic?lang=en  *YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@AmyAllen/featured  *Playlist of The Songs Bonnie Co-Wrote: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFAW2Wx2Q7Fjt?si=75ca7ed7c9134b41  Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall: *YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall  *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall  *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en  *Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall  *Playlist of The Songwriters: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=12a20c414c50486f 
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